As such, the following is for comparative information purposes only and should not be used to make precise predictions of the trajectory, performance, or true ballistics of any particular .223 Remington or .243 Winchester rounds for hunting, target shooting, plinking, or any other usage. Its on game performance is ideal. can reach out even further. The .243 sends a bigger bullet down range and is a great long range flat shooting round in a small package capable and legal to shoot deer with. The .223 is a smaller bullet not just in size but, a good deal in weight and does not have the range or power that the .243 has. The advantage of the.243 is that it's less sensitive to the wind. You can find lever, bolt, and semi-auto rifles chambered in both actions. has slightly less range in terms of bullet weights (40 grain to 75 grain), but it covers basically the same ground. 67 posts • Page 1 of 3 • 1, 2, 3. The .243 Win. “Versatility” refers to both range of bullet weights available and range of actions chambered in a specific cartridge. is the most popular rifle in America, and Weatherby offers tack-driving bolt guns in both calibers in a wide variety of configurations. A 55-grain or 75-grain Nosler Ballistic Tip or Hornady V-Max bullet would do great work against varmints while a 100-grain Sierra Game King could take down any whitetail in North America. Every major manufacturer makes a bolt gun in both calibers, so that’s not a distinguishing factor. is the obvious winner. , Comments have to be approved before showing up, © 2021 Foundry Outdoors - All Rights Reserved, Product successfully added to your Shopping Cart, 223 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 243 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 25 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 300 RSAUM Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum Ammo, 7mm RSAUM Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum Ammo, .223 Remington vs .243 Winchester Ammo Comparison - Ballistics Info & Chart. The 243 round was much louder (out in the field with no ear protection), it could reach out a little further, and with accurate hits it was instant (fall over) death to the varmint. Still, when comparing cartridges, foot-pounds of energy is a helpful way of describing the weight of a projectile and how fast it’s moving. Win. I like having the extra power and range for medium-sized animals, and I don’t see much downside for varmint hunting. It’s a small-to-medium sized game caliber whose primary use has been taking down four-legged rather than two-legged critters. I like that .223 is not as overbore as .243. That gun’s modern military counterpart, the 5.56 NATO, has been in continuous use by militaries around the world since the early 1960s. In a normal year, the .223 Rem. Maximum effective range is another way to compare one caliber to another. When it comes to the 223 vs 243 recoil, you may find that hunting with a 243 may tire you out after a long day, but the 223 Remington is a faithful and easy to handle companion you’ll be glad to have by your side. The noticeable difference to me was the ammo cost, the 223 being lower vs 243. Vs. .22-250 Rem. I'm looking for a caliber that can reach out to 500 yards when needed and touch a varmint. Make no mistake the 223 will DRT any deer with proper shot placement and shot placement above all things takes game. That means it will be more precise at long range, though there are better rifle chamberings purely for long-range target work and varminting (.22-250 and .243 Winchester come to mind). 1; 2; First 2 of 2 Go to page. As a rule of thumb, when it comes to hunting, muzzle energy is what many hunters look at when deciding on what caliber of firearm / ammunition to select. Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by browning308, Feb 10, 2011. True “knock-down power” depends on your bullet’s construction and minimum velocity, your cartridge, and your barrel length. for about 30 cents per round, now you’ll be lucky to find anything in stock below 60 cents. Ballistics Cartridges Shooting. Federal’s 55-grain Trophy Cooper, for example, has a minimum velocity for full expansion of only 1,800 fps. Apr 17, 2013 #1 Pretty much had my heart set on converting my Rem 700 from a 308 to a 260 until the last day or so, I cant find any brass at all let alone ammo. Ballistically speaking, these calibers would be cousins rather than brothers. Here’s a look at three of the best and the .243 Win. Winchester rolled the .243 out as a commercial cartridge in 1955. Although 223 will kill deer, I think its too small a caliber. As illustrated in the chart, .223 Remington rounds - on average - achieve a velocity of about 3150 feet per second (fps) while .243 Winchester rounds travel at a velocity of 3180 fps. This is why the military uses it. wins the availability battle. Written By Ron Spomer The sun was on the Nebraska horizon and a Mossberg 243 Winchester bolt-action was on my shoulder when a herd of November whitetails exploded from a copse of trees and scattered into the Sandhills. cartridges are currently listed as available. First, though the .223 Remington and the 5.56x45mm NATO are technically different cartridges (the same goes for the .308 Winchester and the 7.62x51mm NATO rounds), the practical difference in performance between the .223 vs 5.56 (and the .308 vs 7.62) is very small and doesn’t make any difference for the purposes of this article. True .223 Remington and .243 Winchester ballistics information can vary widely from the displayed information, and it is important to understand that the particular characteristics of a given round can make a substantive difference in its true performance. Such as my state of Washington requires .24 caliber/6mm minimum. I'm looking for a caliber that can reach out to 500 yards when needed and touch a varmint. Ballistics Versatility cartridges as “available” to order online: the 53-grain Varmint and Predator and the 69 grain Gold Medal Match. can push a 75-grain projectile about 3,300 feet per second at the muzzle and achieves about 1,800 foot-pounds of energy. In order to hit a distant target a rifle must be correctly sighted-in, and to accomplish that the shooter must have some working knowledge of the bullet's trajectory. Oh...and gun weight matters too for sure. We have a variety of deals on Rifle Ammo, Handgun Ammo, Shotgun Ammo & Rimfire Ammo, as well as ammo for target practice, plinking, hunting, or shooting competitions. Introduced only two years apart, the .223 Remington and the .243 Winchester couldn’t have come from more different neighborhoods of the firearms world. In 2020, .243 Win. I'll also add the 25'06 for consideration. The .243 Win. If you get a 223, look for one that has a tighter twist than 1-12. Big bucks, land management, rut reports, and tips for the whitetail obsessed. When it comes to availability, it’s always good to bet on the NATO caliber. can maintain enough velocity to take varmint and medium-sized game out to 250 yards, or the distance at which the bullet is still travelling about 2,300 fps, according to Frank C. Barnes’ “Cartridges of the World.” But that range doesn’t apply to every bullet. I’m also not saying your .223 Rem. But this is not a normal year. I’m not saying your .243 Win. Bolt action rifles, lever action, pump action, self loading rifles and other miscellaneous longarms. 204 vs 223 vs 22-250 vs 243. YOU CAN REVIEW PRODUCT DESCRIPTION OF 243 Vs 223 Ammo Cost And Best Deer Hunting Ammo For 223 HERE. 243 Winchester Overview. The .243 Win. The ideal coyote hunting cartridge is flat shooting, highly accurate, and won’t ruin pelts. Extensive information about rifle cartridge trajectory. As Chuck Hawks notes in his great recoil table, the .223 Rem. Ballistics, as they say, are king, so I’m giving the ultimate nod to the .243 Win. wins hands-down. Generally speaking, (very generally; calm down, everyone) a .223 Rem. And that’s why I … You didn’t have to pull my arm out of it’s socket for that solution. 37 Posts . Thread starter ArmyJerry; Start date Apr 17, 2013; Forums. A .223 Rem. It’s better suited for varmint hunting than big game hunting, but a 62-grain Fusion or even a 55-grain Trophy Copper would reliably take down a whitetail given proper shot placement. Again, the above is for comparative information purposes only, and you should consult the exact ballistics for the particular .223 Remington or .243 Winchester cartridge you're looking at purchasing. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .223 Remington vs .243 Winchester ammo rounds. is a necked-down .308 Win., so it holds nearly twice as much powder as the .223 Rem. brass life is greatly improved because AI cases don't need frequent trimming. However, the ammo for the .243 is costlier then then the .223. May 14. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. Yea id be lookin at a 223 even tho i got mine a 243. In order to hit a distant target a rifle must be correctly sighted-in, and to accomplish that the shooter must have some working knowledge of the bullet's trajectory. Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by browning308, Feb 10, 2011. The .223 Rem. I'll also add the 25'06 for consideration. The .223 is a great varmint round and is cheaper to shoot that the .243 What this cartridge offered was a long range hunting round that was able to take lighter bullets that were more suitable for target shooting and varmint hunting. As if that’s such a painstaking decision. Please click the above links to take a look at all of the .223 Remington and .243 Winchester ammo we have in stock and ready to ship, and let us know any parting thoughts in the comment section below. .243 vs 223 AR. .243 or 6 CM are good choices. I’d call action availability a draw. I have yet to meet anyone who couldn't easily master the 223. • .223 Remington vs. .22-250 Remington IN THIS ARTICLE .243 Winchester vs 6mm Remington 243 Winchester 6mm Remington 244 Remington .243 Cartridge Comparison Head to Head Rifle Cartridges Hunting Ammo Ammo Ammunition Philip Massaro Prev. But for purposes of this comparison, I’d give the edge to the .243 Win. and .223 Rem and is the most bogus chart of all. 243 vs 7mm-08 vs 308 Ballistics. A 243 in a lightweight rifle may intimidate some. There's a lot of debate as to what the best deer rifle is, but the .243 definitely has it going on. is a classic Army brat. isn’t uncomfortable, but compared to the .223 Rem., it’s snappy (depending on your rifle, of course). Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > browning308 Member. The latter two are more common, but Henry makes a sweet lever gun called the “Long Ranger” in both calibers. load will reliably kill a deer out to 500 yards. Where before this year you could find .223 Rem. re: Recoil comparison- .223 vs .243 vs 30-30 Posted by lv2bowhntAU on 1/12/14 at 6:08 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt quote: A .308 that fits well will be much more pleasant to shoot than a .243 … In non-pandemic times, the .223 Rem. All the old favorites are normally there, like … Barnes lists 12 bullet weights commercially available for .243 Win., ranging from a 55-grain boat tail to a 105-grain hollow-point boat tail. Cartridge Type: RifleHeight: 2.045\"Width: 0.473\"Average FPS: 3179Average Energy: 1952Average Gr: 87Recoil: 1.25Power Rank: 2.77 of 20 The .243 Winchester is a round used to hunt deer and similar sized animals, some people use it on larger animals but it really isn't made for anything much bigger than a deer. In his excellent handbook, “Cartridges of the World,” Frank C. Barnes describes the .30-0... Our picks for the week’s best hunting, fishing, wild foods, and conservation content. Jump to Latest Follow 21 - 31 of 31 Posts. Federal lists only two .223 Rem. I would take the 6 CM over the .243, but the .243 has better ammo availability. Re: .223 vs .243 please. Ah the .223, I wont give you any anecdotal stories, but I will tell you why cartridges like the .223 are effective at what they do. Bo… The .243 Win. Joined: Feb 10, 2011 Messages: 31. The main advantage if you use the 243 head space gauge to set the head space is that you can use the brass you already have and the feed rails and mag length will remain the same. One way to think about this is as such: a foot-pound is a unit of energy equal to the amount of energy required to raise a weight of one pound a distance of one foot. The .308 entered the scene in 1952 as a military service cartridge. Like others said, the 243 can serve double duty as a deer rifle, and also is far superior on long shots. by contrast achieves only about 1,400 foot-pounds of energy by throwing a 75-grain projectile 2,900 fps. This round is a modification of the .308 WinchesterThe .243 compares well with the .308 in terms of distance trajectory. “Shootability” is a broad term we’re using to mean “how available is this caliber and how comfortable is it to shoot?”. The .243 is often referred to as the baby brother of the .308 Win. Prev. I would take the 6 CM over the .243, but the .243 has better ammo availability. That is to say, .223 Remington bullets travel 3.6 times the speed of a 737 airplane at cruising speed, while .243 Winchester bullets travel 3.6 times that same speed. To put this into perspective, a Boeing 737 commercial airliner travels at a cruising speed of 600 mph, or 880 fps. Nov 22, 2012 13,499 21,983 Kicking Ass Somewhere. double in price. what i find funny is a 22 cal. as well. Like others said, the 243 can serve double duty as a deer rifle, and also is far superior on long shots. In this comparison, the .243 Win. 223 vs 243 vs 270. Discussion Starter • #1 • Oct 29, 2005. what is the metric number for .243 ?? We offer a 100% Authenticity Guarantee on all products sold on our website. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > browning308 Member. .243 vs 223 AR. The 223 is not legal for hunting in many states. That extends the maximum effective range all the way to 350 yards, depending on your velocity at the muzzle. Maybe with the 77gr TMK on close shots with little chance of hitting bone. You can load a bit heavier for hunting predators or varminting and since most .223 rifles have that slower twist rate, shorter leade and tighter freebore, the .223 will likely be more accurate. The majority of the cartridges use bullets ranging from 85 to 105 grain, and Federal’s offerings follow that trend. I guess I’ll just have to own both. 5.56 NATO vs. .223 Remington side-by-side (Photo by PalmettoStateArmory) In fact, the 5.56 NATO is pretty much a ‘buffed up’ .223 Remington. are synonymous with both deer and varmint hunting, so we decided to pit them against each other to see who comes out on top. Jump to Latest Follow 21 - 31 of 31 Posts. Added powder increases velocity and energy, which translates to what the Internet calls “knock-down power” (more on that later). I have seen some 12 twist 223s do well with bullets in the 60-64 grain range, and others that were marginal. Furthermore, the muzzle energy of a .223 Remington round averages out to 1250 ft-lb, while a .243 Winchester round averages out to about 1950 ft-lb. I'm not aware of any states that prohibits the use of 243's on deer. So a .223 Remington round exits the barrel with kinetic energy equal to the energy required for linear vertical displacement of 1250 pounds through a one foot distance, while a .243 Winchester round exiting the barrel has energy equal to the amount required to displace 1950 pounds over the same one foot distance. Even though the cartridges share the same roots, there is a pretty big difference in the ballistics of each cartridge that reflects the different priorities wildcatters had when designing the .243 and 7mm-08. 243 vs the 260 Rem. Depends what the main shooting will be, if primearely a deer rifle 243 but 223 is going to be alot cheaper to run in factory ammo which means more practice and bunnys hares etc … The ammunition is more expensive, but it’s just as common (especially these days), and I can find rifles in lots of different actions and from many different manufacturers. Our website lists special deals on 9mm Ammo, 10mm Ammo, 45-70 Ammo, 6.5 Creedmoor ammo, 300 Blackout Ammo, 10mm Ammo, 5.56 Ammo, Underwood Ammo, Buffalo Bore Ammo and more special deals on bulk ammo. But your past doesn’t define you, and it doesn’t define these calibers either. In a hot prairie dog town the .223 is less tiring. If mainly sitting in and not hiking for miles a heavier gun kicks less than a light gun in any given caliber. The 223 is a lot more pleasant to shoot a lot of rounds through. Shootability Comparing the 22-250 and 243 from a target standpoint the 243 wins for barrel life only; 1200 vs 2500 rounds per barrel if you're pushing things fast. was designed as both a light deer rifle and a varmint cartridge—it can hold its own against high-velocity .22-calibers but still provide enough oomph to take down larger animals. 204 vs 223 vs 22-250 vs 243. Bullet diameter: .243 in (6.2 mm) Case length: 2.045 in (51.9 mm) Twist: 1-10, 1-8 Availability: Great Bolt Action Rifles. If you’re looking for a semi-auto, you’ll likely have better luck finding a .223 Rem., but lots of companies chamber semi-auto guns in .243 Win. All things takes game developed by winchester in 1955 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:59 pm Anybody advice! It was developed by winchester in 1955 for use in its Model 70 action. Deer out to 500 yards when needed and touch a varmint meet anyone who could n't master. On close shots with little chance of hitting bone using the best deer rifle is, but the is. 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