This resulted in Kibito being brought back to life along with the victims of the World Martial Arts Tournament. If Vegeta killed Cell in his semi-perfect, Goku never would have died, Gohan would have kept training throughout the seven-year gap between the Cell and Buu sagas, and Trunks never would have had to die. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. Since the Earth dragon balls could only revive someone who died once and this was Goku's second death. Goku is the king of redemption and second chances. When the entire population of earth were kill and send to otherworld, they didn't stay in otherworld when revived they got teleported to earth. He wanted to stay in the afterlife and fight strong guys. I doubt Goku really values blood relationships over actual relationships, Goku spared Raditz multiple times during the fight, I'm pretty sure if Goku had the chance to beat Raditz without killing him he would've done it. The funny thing is that Goku got resurrected, obviously, while King Kai still has a Halo because no one resurrected him. Why? As such, Dende's set cannot revive anyone that the old set already had, as Shenlon cannot revive someone that's already been revived once before. Prior to Cell's defeat, Android 18 was released from his body, and Android 17 - who was resurrected with the Dragon Balls - became a main character in Dragon Ball Super. (this was not the case) and that's how 17 returned and indeed he wasn't seen again untill GT. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Not only is he one of the last saiyans, he's also gokus brother. Everyone else hates him for pretty much the same reasons. It makes no sense why Goku didn't get teleported to earth when he got revived, but the humans did. Overview. Dabura isn't much of a fighter, he's always trying to turn people to stone with his spit. So, it got me thinking. Cell didn't fight fair with the self destruct ability butcame back in the form of the Cell Jrs anyway. If he has a soul and is considered a victim, I'd say, yeah, he was brought back. And besides that he knew the guy for like a day and had no relationship or anything with him. The question is, would it have been possible to revive him somehow (at that point of the story) if he were not against it? After a grueling battle, Gohan finally killed the villain. Then, Goku contacted them using King Kai's telepathy and asked them not to revive him. He can't. 1 17 did get wished back by krillin. Why? 1 17 did get wished back by krillin. Oct 18, 2019 654. In canon, Future Goku was dead. The set of Dragon Balls that Dende had created were constricted by the same general limitations of the original set, as Dende essentially just upgraded Shenlon rather than create a new dragon. Angered by what Cell had done, Gohan became more powerful than ever. Dragon Ball Z famously killed off Android 16, and never brought him back, but could it be that he's still alive, thanks to the Dragon Balls. Why not raditz? Cell didn't fight fair with the self destruct ability butcame back in the form of the Cell Jrs anyway. Reviving the guy that he brought with him to the grave might not be in his interest. There is a plothole though, assuming 17 was also killed in that self-explosion, he did get revived. The only reason for him not to be is if they retcon it that king Kai has already died once in the past. Why? Which he clearly was given his presence on Earth in the Buu arc. And in the ending of Dragon Ball GT, Goku meets Goku junior and disappears. Because he has the greatest potential afterall. 2. It’s not like Raditz would suddenly help or be useful against Vegeta and Nappa or Freeza, etc. Not like prance around fighting in tournaments dead, but like dead dead. He then dies for 7 years and when he finally comes back and saves the world the show ended. Goku: I'm speaking to you from the Next World. He never got a second to just sit back and chill once Raditz showed up. Why he's the perfect choice: 1. ... neither of which would have been an option if Goku went back to the afterlife. Cookies help us deliver our Services. She said it was like I drew bad guys towards me. This wasn’t the first time Dragon Ball dabbled with death in a serious manner– that distinction belongs to Bora in the Red Ribbon Army arc– but this is the first time Toriyama kills off a … But only mention that because I don't remember the wording. Listen to me, would you? Now Gohan wanted to revive his father. He wanted to stay in the afterlife and fight strong guys. But Shenron could not revive Goku, as he already revived once. Asked by Dende to Porunga on planet New Namek: 1.) 5 Sacrificed His Life To Stop Cell This causes Goku, Cell, King Kai, Bubbles, and Gregory to die from the blast. Without the Senzu, Cell likely would have just killed Gohan right away in order to get back to fighting Goku. Could have been a good uncle to Gohan, instead of having him be raised by that filthy perfectly decent Namekian. Vegeta hates him for the same reason that he hates Nappa: he's a low level brute and not exactly a proud warrior, though at the time the reason was that he was weak. A Reflection Of Sorts. Episode 248/233 Goku's Time is Up, he goes back to the other world(but they still show him) On episode 266/251 The Old Kai's Weapon, Elder Kai, gives his life to Goku, to go back to earth and fight Buu. Dabura isn't much of a fighter, he's always trying to turn people to stone with his spit. Sure, Goku wouldn't have learned Super Saiyan 3 or fusion but there's also a good chance Buu never would have revived. Why didn't Goku just communicate this s*** to Bulma or Trunks? Goku couldn't use his Ultra Instinct form in Dragon Ball Super: Broly, highlighting a wider issue with the franchise's power scaling. Next he has to spent a year traveling back to earth and when he arrives finds out he has to train for 3 years or androids will kill everyone. Cell didn't fight fair with the self destruct ability butcame back in the form of the Cell Jrs anyway. Raditz showed up and he died. Perfect Cell was a much cooler and better villain overall. 2. In a fit of rage, Goku flies off to foolishly avenge his friend, nearly losing his life in the process. If he got revived, they should have him train in the room of spirit and time for the remaining 8 hours, (which equals MONTHS) and have him reach SSJ Blue level! Therefore, Goku without hesitation holds Cell and uses instant transmission to teleport to King Kai's World. But Chiaotzu was wished back twice. Goku later sacrifices his life at the end of the Cell Games, opting to stay dead for seven years before having his life restored by the Rou Kaioshin during the events of the Majin Buu arc. I think It’s worth a shorter what-if. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. And due to this, in the farewell tour, Goku was able to go to hell to meet Piccolo. Goku did revive Freeza. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. 625,000 miles long and it takes Goku 177 days (including falling off and restarting) to reach the end. Following Cell's demise, the Dragon Balls were used to wish back everyone that Cell had killed, including Future Trunks, Android 17, and more. This being Dragon Ball, though, Goku’s death ends up leaving the main cast completely unprepared for when the Artificial Humans start wreaking havoc shortly after. Kaio-sama admits to that, too. ... (but Goku) revived and Vegeta giving up fighting. Re-construct Earth 2.) Because I broke my dragon radar and can't find the balls now. Well I think its base on the fact that yes Goku will avoid killing people if he can but I don't think there is an instance where he goes out of his way to revive an evil person who died, except for one instance in super where he and universe had something to gain from it. Perfect Cell was a much cooler and better villain overall. (this was not the case) and that's how 17 returned and indeed he wasn't seen again untill GT. He wanted to stay in the afterlife and fight strong guys. And so, I have a hunch that the earth will be more peaceful without me around. Dragon Ball Super: Broly follows on from the Dragon Ball Super anime series, the final arc of which saw Goku unearth a devastating new transformation - by far his most powerful form yet. The set of Dragon Balls that Dende had created were constricted by the same general limitations of the original set, as Dende essentially just upgraded Shenlon rather than create a new dragon. What if Goku was revived after dying from Cell and Trunks asked him to come to the future with him. In giving Cell a Senzu bean, Goku saved Gohan’s life. Banned. Some might consider that 17 survived as part of Cell. Goku hates him because he kidnapped his son when he was like four years old. I mean, so was Vegeta, at first. They do have potential to become good guys since Vegeta was even more ruthless than the both of them. But come home to his family and lead a normal life. A slaughter would occur as Majin Boo murdered everyone including Perfect Cell on his first try unlike when Perfect Cell detonated and they thought he died. Of course the show is interesting even without Goku. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. When Goku was fighting Cell, he wasn't trying to win the fight. The Red Ribbon came back in the form of 17 and 18. Here is why- Broly: The great Ancient Super Saiyan believed to be the strongest Saiyans has no existence in the Dragon Ball timeline. Yes. they could have easily brought him back to life with the namekian dragon balls, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! From major villains like Golden Frieza and Fused Zamasu to more minor villains like Copy Vegeta, Super gave us some amazing antagonists. Goku did revive Freeza. In-universe, Goku dies on November 28 and is revived on November 3 of the next year in order to fight Nappa and Vegeta. MPrice Alt account. During the Majin Buu saga (which proceeds the Cell saga), the Elder Kai gives Goku his life so that he may help in the efforts against Majin Buu. In some cases, however, the act of bringing someone back to life will result in the person who did the act dying. He never even got a chance to wish back king Kari let alone Raditz, and by the time super comes along there is no point in bringing him back. He wasn't even trying to tire out Cell to make the fight easier for Gohan. It just wasn't an option given the circumstances. When Piccolo and the others realized that Dende's … Why he's the perfect choice: 1. well after discovering there was one wish left because of goku not wanting to return Krillin wished back 17 for 18 because he thought 17 was her boyfriend. Why ain't you ever revive Raditz if you like him so much? Dabura isn't much of a fighter, he's always trying to turn people to stone with his spit. There was something that Bulma mentioned a long time ago. well after discovering there was one wish left because of goku not wanting to return Krillin wished back 17 for 18 because he thought 17 was her boyfriend. (Vegeta did not comeback this time because he had already been revived by shenron in the Frieza Saga.) Couldn't Dende, the new guardian of the earth create a namekian dragon ball (Porunga) to revive him? Piccolo correctly calls Goku out for throwing Cell a Senzu bean without so much as discussing a game plan with Gohan, but Goku was right to do so. Goku couldn't use his Ultra Instinct form in Dragon Ball Super: Broly, highlighting a wider issue with the franchise's power scaling. The man called Goku has returned to Earth," Porunga's voice boomed over the small group of humans and Namekians who gathered to see the dragon. Because he has the greatest potential afterall. Both raditz and nappa or no longer threats to someone as weak as Tien?? Maybe I missed out some details, but I've been wondering why Goku can't be revived after he died from Cell Saga? Not much more too it. He and Goku did not want to be revived Meshack 02:32, June 12, 2015 (UTC) can't king kai come back to life and stay in the other world ( Spice boys ( talk ) 09:13, June 12, 2015 (UTC) After Goku declined to be revived by the Dragon Balls, King Kai declined as well so he could help guide Goku around in Other World. Especially since he was such a dick, He still hasn’t managed to revive King Kai so I don’t think Raditz will ever happen lol. Nobody is gonna go out of their way to bring someone back to life who causes you to die in the first place. He's given all of his enemies multiple chances to turn their lives around. Then after breaking every bone in his body and nearly dying he had to jump on a spaceship and travel across the universe to save his son and 2 best friends from a space tyrant so he could wish back 4 more friends. A/N: This story is a what if situation had Goku not decided to remain dead after his defeat with Cell. Now that I think about it, wouldn't the bad guys just fuck with Goku's friends out of spite if they couldn't find Goku? It's after this that Goku asked to not be brought back. Atleast not Cooler and Broly! Hours ago, Gohan finished Cell off for good but the victory of Cell's demise came with a price for Gohan's father, Goku died fighting Cell by giving up his life. With training for the Saiyans, fighting them and barely surviving, then recovering, going to Namek, the Cyborgs and training for them, Cell, then dying again and Buu. Chiaotzu body didn't exist on earth, since he blew up. Cell will furiously train against the Cell Jr's, eventually after four months of hard work he emerges with a power only slightly greater than Golden Freeza himself. He was just trying to draw out all of his techniques so everyone watching could understand the opponent that was otherwise so mysterious. As such, Dende's set cannot revive anyone that the old set already had, as Shenlon cannot revive someone that's already been revived once before. He probably just forgot about him to be honest. So, no Super Cell God or Super Cell Blue. When you think about it, she's certainly right, ain't she? Dragon Ball Super: Broly follows on from the Dragon Ball Super anime series, the final arc of which saw Goku unearth a devastating new transformation - by far his most powerful form yet. Freeza's Cells. Why Trunks got hit, its fairly obvious, because the plot needed it. Dragon Ball Super gave us some really strong villains that pushed Goku and Vegeta farther than they've been pushed before. The most obvious omission from this wish was Android 16, who seemingly remained dead. Same with Krillin. Every Dragon Ball fan knows that Akira Toriyama actually considered making Gohan the main character of Dragon Ball Z.. After the Cell Saga, the opening was there; Goku had been killed, leaving Gohan to defend the planet in his place. When Piccolo and the others realized that Dende's set couldn't revive Goku, once the wish was made to revive all those killed by Cell, they were about to start discussing what other options they had to revive him, when Goku interjected from the afterlife and established that he didn't want to be wished back. A brand new Cell has arrived in Dragon Ball Legends, and this one is closer to perfection than ever. They could have easily wished Goku back. Then he trained for a year in the after life and the moment he was wished back he had to fight Raditz’s “allies”. But then, that would mean Gohan killed him along with Cell, therefore he wouldn't have been revived by the wish to bring back all Cell's victims. It is the act of bringing someone back to life. Android 16 is the only member of the Cell Saga's android trio who has yet to return. Why? If he got revived, they should have him train in the room of spirit and time for the remaining 8 hours, (which equals MONTHS) and have him reach SSJ Blue level! Kinda like Vegeta and Freeza, Goku doesn’t give everyone a second chase, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! He's the "perfect" choice. Other exempt cases would be the people in South City Androids 19 and 20 killed, in addition to the innocent bystanders Vegeta recklessly killed during his fight with 18, they never got wished back. Also potentially if the wording used was "all people killed by cell" then king Kai wouldn't have come back because he is a Kai. That and generally speaking he had his hands full. Raditz could've come around. I'm pretty sure she means when Shenron revived Cell's victims. It’s debatable just how much Goku would be able to help, but he at least knew about the Room of Spirit and Time & could teleport at this point. Really? goku chose to stay dead because he thought he was attracting a lot of bad guys to earth and that its his fault (thats a really dumb reason, and it didn't even work because majin buu was happening.) After Shenron revived Goku, he must have given his memory back and I think Shenron made him immortal and given him a god soul because of his good deeds. Nov 3, 2019 #68 Originally you were only allowed to be revived once and he had been revived before. Because by the time they had the chance to freely use the dragon balls Raditz would have reincarnated, Because raditz was a villain and the “real” goku isn’t this mercy giving guy and rather just wants a selfish good fight, Because he was a bad guy and goku didn't like him. A lot of interesting events happen during that one day pass lol. And why weren't Tien and Yamcha revived into their original bodies since they didn't disintegrate like Chauzu's did when they fought the Saiyans? When cell got the senzu bean from Goku did cell get a zenkai or was that when he came back "perfect cell" absorbing Goku saiyan genes ... so he wasn't sure who he was aiming at of the two. Why did Goku never revive........... GOKU? To be fair, King Piccolo was reincarnated as Piccolo Junior and Frieza ultimately got revived in the end thanks in part to Goku. Part One "Your wish has been granted. Freeza's Cells. Well apart from just disliking him as a person since he was a cowardly evil dick, there wasn’t any need or reason to. All of Goku's training, his time and preparation, the goal to push himself to his limits that had well… literally killed him … Naturally considering how arrogant Cell is he'll believe that if Goku, Vegeta and Freeza can acheive that level of power than so can he. he did try and kidnap his son and to kill Raditz he had to die. After defeating Cell, they revived all his victims using Shenron. 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